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    France's Macron says defense chief has no choice but to agree with him: JDD

    Imagine what the US media coverage would have been if Trump said the same thing!

    July 15, 2017 / 5:39 PM / 5 hours ago
    France's Macron says defense chief has no choice but to agree with him: JDD



    (Note: This story contains language that may offend some readers.)

    PARIS (Reuters) - French President Emmanuel Macron said his defense chief has no choice but to agree with what he says, a weekly newspaper reported on Sunday, after his top general criticized spending cuts to this year's budget.

    "If something opposes the military chief of staff and the president, the military chief of staff goes," Macron, who as president is also the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, told Le Journal du Dimanche (JDD).

    Macron said on Thursday that he would not tolerate public dissent from the military after General Pierre de Villiers reportedly told a parliament committee he would not let the government "fuck with" him on spending cuts.

    De Villiers still has Macron's "full trust," the president told JDD, provided the top general "knows the chain of command and how it works."

    "No one deserves to be blindly followed," De Villiers wrote in a message posted on his Facebook page on Friday.

    De Villiers' last Facebook post is an open letter addressed to new military recruits that makes no mention of Macron. But it was perceived by French media as targeting the president's earlier comments.

    De Villiers and Macron are scheduled to meet next Friday afternoon, according to the president's official agenda.

    The French government trimmed the 2017 defense budget to ensure France meets its commitment to bring its budget deficit below the European Union cap of 3 percent of national income in 2017.

    De Villiers, whose mandate as the military chief of staff was extended by a year on Wednesday by the new defense minister, criticized at a parliamentary committee hearing on the same day the 850-million-euro ($975 million) cut in this year's budget.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fr...source=twitter


    Hmmm, here's a translation of a French article with better coloring:


    On Thursday, the President of the Republic that he was "the chief" and considered "unworthy" the public criticisms of the chief of staff of the armies, General Pierre de Villiers. The two men will be present side by side this Friday at the parade on 14 July.

    On Thursday , the head of state sharply remonstrated the general who had spoken out against an Army budget cut, for 2017, in front of deputies. In his speech at the garden party in honor of the troops preparing for the parade, Emmanuel Macron stated that it was "unseemly to conduct certain debates in public".

    He also reminded military members of their "sense of duty and professional discretion (reserve)". Finally, the head of the armed forces has finished his refutation with an authoritarian: "I am your leader," reports Le Parisien.

    The controversy began following the announcement of a budget cut of at least 850 million euros for this year. On Thursday, at a closed hearing before the Defense Committee in the Assembly, General de Villiers, the Chief of Staff of Defense, said that the army had already "given everything" and 'was not going to be fucked over' by Bercy, according to participants. In an article published this Friday in Le Figaro, the General was more measured but he stressed: "For a number of years our armies have been confronted with a situation of high tension, due to the combination of the very high level of long-term commitments, 30,000 soldiers in operational positions, day and night, for more than two years - and a complicated budgetary context ". "This big gap is untenable," he said, recalling that operations are already "delayed or even canceled due to lack of available resources".

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    http://www.liberation.fr/france/2017...lliers_1583791

    Original French:

    Jeudi, le président de la République a rappelé qu'il était «le chef» et jugé «indigne» les critiques publiques du chef d'état-major des armées, le général Pierre de Villiers. Les deux hommes seront présents côte à côte ce vendredi au défilé du 14 Juillet.

    Le chef de l’Etat a vertement recadré jeudi le général qui s’était insurgé devant des députés contre une réduction des moyens des armées en 2017. Dans son discours à la garden-party en l’honneur des troupes se préparant au défilé, Emmanuel Macron a considéré qu’il n’était «pas digne d’étaler certains débats sur la place publique».

    Il a aussi rappelé les militaires à leur «sens du devoir et de la réserve». Enfin, le chef des armées a terminé sa mise au point avec un autoritaire : «Je suis votre chef», rapporte Le Parisien.

    La polémique a commencé suite à l’annonce de coupes d’au moins 850 millions d’euros pour cette année. Le chef d’état-major des armées, le général de Villiers avait jugé jeudi, lors d’audition à huis clos devant de la commission Défense à l’Assemblée, que l’armée avait déjà «tout donné» et qu’il n’allait pas «se faire baiser» par Bercy, selon des participants. Dans une tribune parue ce vendredi dans Le Figaro, il se montre plus mesuré mais a souligne : «nos armées sont confrontées, depuis plusieurs années, à une situation de forte tension, sous l’effet combiné d’un niveau d’engagement très élevé qui s’inscrit dans la durée - 30 000 soldats en posture opérationnelle, de jour comme de nuit, depuis plus de deux ans - et d’un contexte budgétaire compliqué». «Ce grand écart n’est pas tenable», affirme-t-il en rappelant que des opérations sont déjà «différées, voire annulées, faute de moyens disponibles».

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    http://www.liberation.fr/france/2017...lliers_1583791
    You can easily get agreement between a pig and a cow that wolves are bad, but they can easily fall into the trap where the pig says
    wolves should eat more beef, while the cow recommends a diet of pork.

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    i can't imagine Congress cutting the military budget.

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    Truman said it to Mac. and made it stick. Lincoln fired a bunch of Generals.

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    I remember when he was being elected people were touting him as the French Obama. But he sounds more like W. Bush when he said:

    “If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier... as long as I'm the dictator. Hehehe.”
    "Honest words leave the least room for misunderstanding."
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    Well the General resigned this morning and is already gone. This isn't playing well in France at all.

    Last edited by Vanessa; 07-19-2017 at 08:49 PM.
    You can easily get agreement between a pig and a cow that wolves are bad, but they can easily fall into the trap where the pig says
    wolves should eat more beef, while the cow recommends a diet of pork.

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