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    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends

    Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

    Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.

    By Kenneth P. Vogel and David Stern

    Jan 11 2017 05:05 AM EST

    (Picture of Proshenko the criminal)
    President Petro Poroshenko’s administration, along with the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, insists that Ukraine stayed neutral in the American presidential race. | Getty

    Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.
    Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

    A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

    The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.

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    Ukraine, on the other hand, has traditionally enjoyed strong relations with U.S. administrations. Its officials worry that could change under Trump, whose team has privately expressed sentiments ranging from ambivalence to deep skepticism about Poroshenko’s regime, while sounding unusually friendly notes about Putin’s regime.

    Poroshenko is scrambling to alter that dynamic, recently signing a $50,000-a-month contract with a well-connected GOP-linked Washington lobbying firm to set up meetings with U.S. government officials “to strengthen U.S.-Ukrainian relations.”

    Revelations about Ukraine’s anti-Trump efforts could further set back those efforts.

    Ukraine, on the other hand, has traditionally enjoyed strong relations with U.S. administrations. Its officials worry that could change under Trump, whose team has privately expressed sentiments ranging from ambivalence to deep skepticism about Poroshenko’s regime, while sounding unusually friendly notes about Putin’s regime.

    Poroshenko is scrambling to alter that dynamic, recently signing a $50,000-a-month contract with a well-connected GOP-linked Washington lobbying firm to set up meetings with U.S. government officials “to strengthen U.S.-Ukrainian relations.”

    Revelations about Ukraine’s anti-Trump efforts could further set back those efforts.

    “Things seem to be going from bad to worse for Ukraine,” said David A. Merkel, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council who helped oversee U.S. relations with Russia and Ukraine while working in George W. Bush’s State Department and National Security Council.

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    While it’s not uncommon for outside operatives to serve as intermediaries between governments and reporters, one of the more damaging Russia-related stories for the Trump campaign — and certainly for Manafort — can be traced more directly to the Ukrainian government.

    Documents released by an independent Ukrainian government agency — and publicized by a parliamentarian — appeared to show $12.7 million in cash payments that were earmarked for Manafort by the Russia-aligned party of the deposed former president, Yanukovych.

    The New York Times, in the August story revealing the ledgers’ existence, reported that the payments earmarked for Manafort were “a focus” of an investigation by Ukrainian anti-corruption officials, while CNN reported days later that the FBI was pursuing an overlapping inquiry.

    Clinton’s campaign seized on the story to advance Democrats’ argument that Trump’s campaign was closely linked to Russia. The ledger represented “more troubling connections between Donald Trump’s team and pro-Kremlin elements in Ukraine,” Robby Mook, Clinton’s campaign manager, said in a statement. He demanded that Trump “disclose campaign chair Paul Manafort’s and all other campaign employees’ and advisers’ ties to Russian or pro-Kremlin entities, including whether any of Trump’s employees or advisers are currently representing and or being paid by them.”

    A former Ukrainian investigative journalist and current parliamentarian named Serhiy Leshchenko, who was elected in 2014 as part of Poroshenko’s party, held a news conference to highlight the ledgers, and to urge Ukrainian and American law enforcement to aggressively investigate Manafort.

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    Manafort denied receiving any off-books cash from Yanukovych’s Party of Regions, and said that he had never been contacted about the ledger by Ukrainian or American investigators, later telling POLITICO “I was just caught in the crossfire.”

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    The Trump-Ukraine relationship grew even more fraught in September with reports that the GOP nominee had snubbed Poroshenko on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York, where the Ukrainian president tried to meet both major party candidates, but scored only a meeting with Clinton.

    Telizhenko, the former embassy staffer, said that, during the primaries, Chaly, the country’s ambassador in Washington, had actually instructed the embassy not to reach out to Trump’s campaign, even as it was engaging with those of Clinton and Trump’s leading GOP rival, Ted Cruz.

    “We had an order not to talk to the Trump team, because he was critical of Ukraine and the government and his critical position on Crimea and the conflict,” said Telizhenko. “I was yelled at when I proposed to talk to Trump,” he said, adding, “The ambassador said not to get involved — Hillary is going to win.”

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    A delegation of Ukrainian parliamentarians allied with Poroshenko last month traveled to Washington partly to try to make inroads with the Trump transition team, but they were unable to secure a meeting, according to a Washington foreign policy operative familiar with the trip. And operatives in Washington and Kiev say that after the election, Poroshenko met in Kiev with top executives from the Washington lobbying firm BGR — including Ed Rogers and Lester Munson — about how to navigate the Trump regime.

    Weeks later, BGR reported to the Department of Justice that the government of Ukraine would pay the firm $50,000 a month to “provide strategic public relations and government affairs counsel,” including “outreach to U.S. government officials, non-government organizations, members of the media and other individuals.”

    Firm spokesman Jeffrey Birnbaum suggested that “pro-Putin oligarchs” were already trying to sow doubts about BGR’s work with Poroshenko. While the firm maintains close relationships with GOP congressional leaders, several of its principals were dismissive or sharply critical of Trump during the GOP primary, which could limit their effectiveness lobbying the new administration.

    The Poroshenko regime’s standing with Trump is considered so dire that the president’s allies after the election actually reached out to make amends with — and even seek assistance from — Manafort, according to two operatives familiar with Ukraine’s efforts to make inroads with Trump.

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    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...ackfire-233446


    So Poroshenko's in DC today. LMAO! My god does he look like a dejected pug frantic for a kind word and pat on the head from his master...



    You can easily get agreement between a pig and a cow that wolves are bad, but they can easily fall into the trap where the pig says
    wolves should eat more beef, while the cow recommends a diet of pork.

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    Ukrainian leader’s visit to Trump was an epic FAILURE

    OMG. No sooner did I post that than this came out. LMAO!!

    Ukrainian leader’s visit to Trump was an epic FAILURE
    Adam Garrie
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    Petro Poroshenko's visit to Donald Trump was called a 'drop in' by the White House. It was in reality, more like a 'drop out'.

    While many were wondering if somehow the beleaguered, bumbling war criminal leader of the Ukrainian regime Petro Poroshenko could some how convince Donald Trump to change his generally positive views about Russia, the truth is that the meeting could have been described as ‘useless’ before it even happened.

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    Obama’s patently anti-Russian administration was more importantly an ideologically driven administration. Of course Obama’s henchmen and women were chasing money, but they did so with a distinctly ideological overtone that hardly ever worked in the interests of the long-term American purse.

    Donald Trump by contrast generally sees foreign affairs practically though they are underlined by Trump’s instincts to associate profit with a good situation as well as Trump’s desire for personal prestige.

    Saudi Arabia provided Trump with the money and prestige, while Israel treated Trump like some sort of messiah. Europe by contrast treated Trump with scorn and Trump scorned Europe back.

    Ukraine can provide Trump with neither because it is incapable of doing do.

    By contrast, any American President could provide Proshenko with prestidge but this is not what Poroshenko got.

    According to the White House, Poroshenko’s visit was a ‘drop in visit’ rather than a more formal arranged meeting.

    One can be assured the Prime Ministers of Britain or Japan wouldn’t ‘drop in’ to the White House. Sergey Lavrov himself certainly did not ‘drop in’, but this is what Poroshenko did.

    Poroshenko of course called it a “substantial visit” which of course is true insofar as it is as substantial a visit with the President of the United States as he could realistically hope to get.

    Poroshenko’s meetings with other US officials may have heartened him as they doubtlessly recited verbatim, the script from the Obama years, but the truth is that POTUS Trump simply doesn’t have very strong views on Ukraine and certainly does not see the violent Ukrainian regime as anything special.

    The sparse comments Trump made after the meeting is a further testament to the fact that Kiev is not a priority for Trump.



    Donald Trump who the day prior to Poroshenko’s visit Tweeted positively about his meeting with the President of Panama, posted nothing on Twitter about his meeting with Poroshenko.

    Trump did however, post to Facebook the following video mocking Russiagate, a scandal tailor made for Poroshenko. Trump clearly was not convinced by the Ukrainian leader.

    <<CLICK IMAGE FOR VIDEO TO PLAY

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    http://theduran.com/ukrainian-leader...-epic-failure/

    Pinging @ClarityofSignal for laughs
    You can easily get agreement between a pig and a cow that wolves are bad, but they can easily fall into the trap where the pig says
    wolves should eat more beef, while the cow recommends a diet of pork.

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